How to make Money with H.Y.I.P's

Profit from HYIP’s

Before I move on to the Nitty Gritty of profit making within the H.Y.I.P Arena it wouldn’t be right of me to continue without letting you know of the risks involved. And trust me, it’s VERY risky! As the saying goes “with high returns, comes high risks”.
There are so many reasons why this type of Money Making circle carries the high risks as it does. And believe it or not they aren’t high due to the scammers out there trying to mislead you and take your hard earned savings by any unscrupulous means of deceiving and betrayal. The scammers only dominate a small portion of the Risk Pool. There are ways to beat these types of individuals; this article will present you with ways to dodge this type of low lives, show you spending strategies that SHOULD be adopted, and explain the technological workings of how these Money Making Opportunities work and ultimately, profit from them.

With many years of experience in the H.Y.I.P Arena, I’ve see everything there is to see, some good experiences, and some bad. Met thousands of different type of people and how they react to certain things and how their reactions influence the H.Y.I.P Market just as you would see in the N.Y.S.E.

Many of the influences that drive the H.Y.I.P Arena thrives on speculation, which creates a very rocky path for finding long term stable programs. At best a program will last approximately 6 months. Some longer – it all depends on what type of program it is, how many people are involved as members, and how many members are promoting the program, etc.

The different kinds of H.Y.I.P Programs you’ll come across come in all sorts of shapes and sizes of the administrator’s imagination. The types you’ll notice are; H.Y.I.P’s/H.Y.G.P’s – mainly ponzi’s (I’ll explain what these are a little later), M.L.M, Auto-surf (new to the H.Y.I.P Arena as of 2005), Matrices, Doublers just to name a few.

The technologies used these days are in a league of their own compared to what I was introduced to many years ago. There were no automated Web sites and everything was operated manually. Now-a-days 9 out of 10 Opportunities use some sort of automation for sign-up processes, allocating referral income to the correct sponsor or sponsors, performing payment requests, making deposits, auto-payments to member’s eCurrency accounts such as e-Gold, Ebullion, Pecunix, PayPal, etc, or to their Members Area before a request of payment is made, known as an Internal Payment.

Below describes what these programs are in detail and a little bit about their history:

H.Y.I.P’s also referred to as H.Y.G.P’s

H.Y.I.P’s acronym stands for High Yield Investment Programs. Some like to refer to these as H.Y.G.P’s (High Yield Gambling Programs). I also prefer the latter for the fact that 9 out of 10 programs online these days are not in actual fact “Investments” although some people consider them to be because they expect to see some sort of return back on their spends/deposits made into these income revenue streams. This type of wrong thinking is part of the added risks people create because they do not know what they are getting themselves into. I’ll explain more on this a little later.

You’ll be very lucky to find such programs who claim they to be Investment driven, i.e., from outside sources. And if you do find one, I’ll bet your bottom dollar you will not find one that either will last, or pays the amounts between 5-20% per week and keep paying, anything less, sure, it’s possible but I wouldn’t back my house keys on it.
It has been known for some of these types of programs who pay more than 5% per week to last years. I’ve personally been in programs that paid between 5-50% per week and lasted for over 3yrs, but they are very rare to come across.

When you’re confronted by another to join H.Y.I.P’s, try not to be greedy and lose control of your emotions thinking that you’ve found something that will set you for life financially. Look for programs that pay between 1-3% per day, or per week and have lots of members. When viewing a Web site you’ll need to be made aware of the Web site design, i.e., one that has a modern look and feel to it and not one that looks like a template bought for $59.00.

Most if not all are ponzi’s, i.e. the money that comes in from the last person pays the first person who entered the program. There is a fine line here and somewhat ironic thinking behind the people who complain when these programs run out of money to pay other members. When some find out they’re in a Ponzi, they don’t care for as long as it pays.

First, you have the laws in certain countries that prohibit you from operating these type of income revenue vehicles, the ironic part is the National Lottery, Tax, Scratch Cards, Casino’s, etc, are all PONZI’s. It’s okay for the Government to operate or pass on the green light for people to operate these providing they receive a slice of the action. It's a kind of two faced way of looking at it, one rule for one and another for someone else.
You see, the Internet is not regulated by any law on this planet, the Internet is too large and it will take many 10’s of years before a regulatory body steps in to control over 1billion internet users which is increasing by over 50,000 Internet users per day. At this current time there is approximately 907,309,130 computers connected to the internet, you can imagine the nightmare it would be to control every single person.
But having saying this, it’s not illegal to take part. I say this because no one on this God’s green earth can control how you spend your money.

As time moved on, people who operated such programs were looking for ways to get the SEC, FBI, etc off their backs. Low and behold, it didn’t take long before a new trend emerged that put life into these programs by means of gathering more people to take part as those who joined before hand, and still continue to this very day, backed off due to the paper pushers placing pressure on the operators of such programs, which resulted in many innocent members, and operators losing money because of being closed down or members didn’t take part any more, they all cashed in leaving the pot dry and empty – this, unfortunately is a trend that will never die, “Hit and Runners”.

This is one of the elements of risks that today many of us face and worry about when taking part in these programs. And this is one of the most important things, in my opinion to do - adopt a spending strategy in every single program you join whether it’s popular or not. And do not let others influence your choices, no matter how well you know them or knowledgeable they come across to you in idle forum posts, have your own piece of mind and think for yourself.

Secondly, you have these people who have nothing else better to do with their time and just like to complain, I guess you could say they’re a bit like Phil Hellmuth (9 time winner of the Worlds Largest Poker Tournaments) who hates to lose and never satisfied...lol Just kidding, I’m sure he doesn’t go to the lengths that I’ve seen some of these people go to in the HYIP/HYGP Arena.
I’ve seen countless nuisance makers causing trouble for everyone in these programs placing each and everyone’s money at more risk; again, the ironic part is they were a member of that program they are complaining about.
They go on and on how it was a “ponzi scam” – funny how they never said anything before hand when they made a deposit to intentionally profit from it. Sincerely, these people are just crazy and don’t know what on earth they are talking about or care about the harm they cause upon others. When you see people of this type who start complaining, it’s time to start monitoring that program with hawk eyes, you’ll be surprised what damage they can do.

These people are so uneducated on how the HYIP/HYGP Arena works, it makes me wonder how they managed to work out how to turn on the PC and connect to the Internet.
You can be sure that these people are either one way minded and think that the world owes them something or they’re just a newbie letting off some steam. As I say, try to be careful, and if at all possible try not to take too much notice. And if people reframe from replying to their idiotic posts to discourage people it wont bring any unnecessary attention to a program that is paying regularly, ponzi or not.

But how do you know if they are trying to warn us the program isn’t paying?

This shouldn’t be hard to work out, if you’re not due a payment yet but know of people who are, ask them if they are being paid or have gotten paid. Check the program’s Forum; are people complaining, are posts being deleted, is the Admin’ replying to the posts, etc? Or you can always ask-me-about it if you’re unsure.

How can you find out if the program is a Ponzi or not?

This is one of the easiest things to find out.
Unfortunately for some or many should I say are bone idle and will not ask the administrators. Don’t ask me why I can’t work it out myself. Many people prefer to ask another member on another forum. In my opinion this is a big No-No as a lot of the information placed on forums is misconstrued.

You’re really better off asking the Admin’, besides it gives you a good overall feeling of how the administrators work with people, response times to answer a question, etc. So when it comes down to advocating (for a better word) a program with your referral link, it’s always good to be sure of what it is before hand. Trust me; you’ll get to grips with the HYIP Arena more by seeking the Admin’s view, honest or not. Remember, speculation is not a Fact. Get it from the horse’s mouth – so to speak. You’ll understand more as your experience in this industry grows.
Although those of us feel sorry/guilty for inviting others to an opportunity who may lose, the feeling is different to some extent, but not entirely, if the information you gathered were in fact from the Admin’, you’ll feel a lot better inside knowing you didn’t rely on half ass concocted information from those who speculate for a living – I hope you an see where I’m coming from and not misunderstanding me.
Some of the information you find out there on forums are also helpful. Separating the bullshit from the truth is the hardest part. If you’re a researcher like me, you’ll go that one step further to find it and separate yourself from those who lose their money so you stay above the rest, and if you will, share your information so others can profit from it too as we’re all in the same boat here looking to keep ones head above water.

Try not to be afraid when wanting to know more information, as I say, ask the Admin’. Questions like “How does your program make money?”, “Can you back it up with documents how the program makes money”, “If not, why?”, “Can we see evidence of the reports you claim on your Web site that says you trade into Foreign Currencies and the Stock Exchange”, etc, etc.
You see, a lot of Admin’s will not supply this information. They will come out with some excuse like; “Sorry we are unable to get the reports at this present time”, “Sorry, we do not have access to them”, “Sorry, but our privacy will be jeopardized if we supplied this information”, etc, or they will just plain blank (ignore) you. And even if they did supply the information, make sure you get that information checked out, if you do not know how to personally do it yourself, ask-me-about it or ask someone else to verify it for you.

The fact is 9 times out of 10 these people do not have sufficient evidence. And they have a lot to hide.
Hiding the real truth such as the proper percentages being made while ponzi-ing the rest of the member’s money. These people are classed as those who deceive you for what you’re worth (or lack of – experience and know how) and at best times avoided. They’re basically setting themselves up for a nice nest egg on your funds, once your money runs out they close down the program then make up some excuse, while the money they placed into another income source(s) that wasn’t any where near adequate to make the dues out to their member base, they live off. Nasty I know, but it happens.

As mentioned before, try looking for programs that pay 1% - 3% per day for a total of 150% to 200% returns on your deposit; in other words 50% to 100% profit. But I must stress, don’t expect to be paid the full amount if you enter the program in the late stages. We normally class a program in its late stage when it’s about 3 to 6 months old as these programs do tend to last up to around 9 to 15 months if we’re lucky.
Do the math before entering the program. If a program pays 1% per day, even on a weekend (that’s a big red flag right there, no investment pays on the weekends), work it out. 100 days to receive your money back before you’re even in the profit zone with them. Don’t go for programs that pay you in one lump of 120% - 200% or more. These do not last, trust me.

MLM: Multi-level Marketing

Multi-level Marketing is as the name implies. A series of commission levels either above you, or below you. Each level can hold a certain amount of people. When one of those people; mainly from your downline, i.e. those under you (your referrals’ and your referrals’ referral’s) refers another you’re given a commission if that person for instance renews their membership, or purchases a product.

You’ll need to be careful of these if you’re not the type of person who feels they can’t sponsor 20+ people because the chances are you’ll end up out of pocket.
However, some administrators have found ways to help people who do not have the necessary skills or contact list to make it beneficial for them. For instance: A Company Forced Matrix; this type of Matrix is one that allows spillover, Spillover is generated by those from your upline, i.e. from those people who joined in above you. So basically you can sit there, do nothing, and still expect to see a person landing in your downline. You’ll still get paid, but you will not get the true amount (depending on the pay structure) since this referral wasn’t gained by you, you’ll just get a smaller portion of the commission. In any case, any matrix program you join and ones that do not require much work of you to earn, you’ll end up waiting a fair while to break even. “No work, No play” as they say.

Another type of matrix are ones where rather than using people, your deposits are used in the same way, i.e., depending on what position your deposit came in determines where you’re placed in the matrix for that particular deposit – this is referred to as a “Straight Lined Matrix”.
The structures of the matrices are the same to an extent, but the payment methods are the same, i.e., if there’s enough money, you’ll get paid...
It doesn’t matter if you refer people or not, the only factor that makes these programs work is if you and others before you or after you spend and re-spend or not, as these are reliant on you moving up the ladder to get paid.
There’s been many of these type of programs about, some may refer to them as Doublers, i.e., spend $5.00 get paid $10.00.
In all reality of the matter, every single program you see out there is a matrix in the manner of how you are paid. A true matrix is of course they claim to do what they say; make money from outside sources. Or uses portions of the funds received for subscriptions or services to pay back out to its member base. This is perfectly legal in every country around the world and the main reason why this is my favourite types of Income revenue vehicles.

Auto-surfs: the latest thing to hit the Internet in year 2005.

Auto-surfs (A.S) are one of the biggest things that have hit the internet by storm. Not so much in the area of many people using them to conduct such programs, but the amount of people who took part in them.
They were so popular the average ponzi out there would have been fortunate to see approx 500 members during its up time, but the average Auto-surf gained these many people within a day up to and over 300,000 members large within 6 months.
It sometimes put a smile on my face, you know how the majority complain, whinge, moan, sigh how they hate ponzi’s, or anything else that smells like a ponzi, etc, and then jump all over these Auto-surfs and changed the way they think all because they started to make money from them.

It wouldn’t be hardly surprising that their attitudes would change again if the opposite happened – this may be the case now as quite a few of the Auto-surfs are under the close watch of the Big Brothers eye due to an incident that transpired recently with a eCurrency Medium; Stormpay and 12 Daily Pro; the auto-surf.

Long story short, Stormpay closed down the accounts of 12 Daily Pro with approx $50,000,000.00 in them claiming they were a ponzi, Stormpay had no proof (again the typical two faced rule, Stormpay are a bunch of scammers themselves, they owned their own matrix ponzi program in 2002 and stopped paying hundreds of people), Stormpay started doing charge backs to all the members accounts that took part in 12 Daily Pro and denied doing it until the authorities came in to find out what was going on.
If any 12 Daily Pro member spent their funds into another companies account this too would have been reversed, but not reversed in the sense we would expect it, i.e. to be sent back to the originators’ account, but it was sent back to 12 Daily Pro’s account. The reason for this is they, Stormpay wanted to catch ALL of the money that a 12 Daily Pro member made, profits or not. You can find more information about this at www.abc4.com type in “12 Daily Pro” in their search boxes on the website and follow the links. Read up on the articles and check out the 12+ or so video archives.

You know, it’s strange how it took a product for people to realise that these other programs they were in that had a similar payment structure, i.e., how money was taken in from members; by means of buying products or a using service.

The Auto-surf software was fine to a degree; it was the people who ran them on their Web sites paying out too much. Many of those who took part wasn’t really bothered, they were all taking part, enjoying getting paid, it was one of the first times we’ve seen such programs that lasted longer than the average program we’ve seen for years and continually paid until, the money ran out that is. It all came down to one thing in the end that made the programs last, the Admin’s ability to market the program and have a rapport with the members.

Auto-surfs are legal no matter what any one else says - however there is a very thin line here - it’s how they’re operated that makes them legal or not. 12 Daily Pro was half and half legal. Not only were they selling a product and a service, they were making money – problem was they weren’t making enough and paying out too much.
A majority of programs these days start off as Ponzi’s. Just as any street side Business does; you ask for a loan, this loan is used to pay your employees, business projects, lawyer fees, etc; essentially you’re using others money to pay for something else and you have to pay interest back, in this case the Bank if you took a loan out with them.
That’s what these programs are, not all of them, but a small handful are and do have the intentions to create a business out of the money they receive from members and to show their gratitude they pay “interest” back out to the members. But it’s hard, setting up a business is easy, but keeping the members happy is the hardest. We all want to see bigger returns than 3% per week; we’re all accustomed to receiving 5-15% per week. Anything less just will not do.

No… really, the problem is, is trust. Trusting a new program that pays less than 4% to 5% per week, will it last 20+wks to break even? 20wks for those out there with a small cash flow is a big issue with them, that’s 5 months of time gone by without even breaking into profit when they can join a program and within 3 months got their money back and be in profit.

I will show you ways how you can utilize every option within the H.Y.I.P/H.Y.G.P Arena and experience every program on offer with $100.00 cash flow and turn this $100.00 into at least $178.00 within 12 months – better than any bank can give you, better than any post-office investment out there that can give you, better than any investment advisor or broker can give you. But be forewarned, it’s not easy – there’s at least 3-5hrs per day for 4-6 days a week of work to do. Are you up for a casual/part-time job? It goes without saying, the more hours you put in, the more you’ll get out of it.

By using the tips I will show you here soon and the marketing skills I’ll teach/show you, I’m very confident you’ll be on your way to a winner, just like the 1000’s of others I have shown during my time online advising others